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CNNfn

 August 19, 1999

CNNfn LIVE REPORT

Jack Cafferty - CNNfn Anchor: Joining me now is our favorite content provider, Allen Wastler, managing director at CNNfn.com. Which is our Web site.It’s the home of a lot of really cool stuff. Do you steal from the place that you work? Most of you do, don’t they? 

Allen Wastler - Managing Director, CNNfn.com: They do. We took a look at it today and we looked at a new study out by Michael Kessler and Associates and according to them over 73% of employees in the workplace have either stolen or thought about stealing. 

Cafferty: That’s stocking – shocking! 

Wastler: Shocking! They just locked up the supply cabinet. We got this memo saying everybody’s stealing the ball-point pens. I don’t know what you have to do is fill out a form to get a pencil. One out of three companies that go bankrupt, part of the reason for bankruptcy is attributable to employee theft and they think it’s between of 60 and 120 billion – billion with a b, dollars a year attributable to employee theft. But it also goes up to telephones, office equipment, computer equipment. Someone goes in and snatches the card out of the computer or something like that up to serious white collar crime, I’ll write myself an extra check for a thousand. 

Rhonda Schaffler - CNNfn Anchor: How do they protect themselves against these sticky things? 

Wastler: You don’t want to do the big surveillance cameras on employees all the time because that will bring in a different set of problems, but you can do things like double checks. If you get a lot of copies of invoices you might be thinking why are you getting copies for these things. Little telltale signs like that. 

Cafferty: They’ll steal from the workplace and they won’t think about holding up a gas station. 

Wastler: Why, Jack, I’m glad you ask. 

Cafferty: That’s my job, is to ask the questions. 

Wastler: Actually it’s surprising, greed is the biggest reason, of course. 49 percent is greed, but here’s a surprising one. 43 percent is vindictiveness. I’m going to get even with the boss. 

Schaffler: Wow!

Cafferty: 8 percent are almost for need.

Wastler: Here’s another thing for employers to keep in mind, OK? Once you let the stealing go on, if you turn a blind eye, a few pencils and paper clips and stuff like that, it will snowball on you because Kessler also asked employees about would they never steal, would they steal and stuff and here’s the surprising number. Check this out, 66 percent, 2/3 said they would steal without consequences and 21 percent said they would never steal. Interesting point, they said the person you got to watch all the time is the employee that -- that’s never late for work. Because that employee might have been stealing this whole time, so they’re afraid if they’re going you’ll find out. 

Schaffler: We can look around the office. Figure out who is on time. 

Wastler: You may want to check it out a little. Anyway, I got to go so I’ll talk to you all later.

Cafferty: That’s very funny. I was just going to say if the statistics are right tow of the three of us have robbed the company. 

Schaffler: It’s him. He’s got the phone. 

Wastler: I would never do such a thing. 

Cafferty: He’s stuffing pens in his pocket. 

Schaffler: Greed or vindictiveness, greed, vindictiveness or do you need that post-it.

Wastler: Who’s listening? Need? 

Cafferty: That was Alan Wastler, CNNfn.com.

Credit - CNN